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Dr.J — April 26, 2007
Sorry buddy, but your opinions are incorrect! I’m a doctor and stress prevention! Maybe I took the oath more seriously than most, but the reality is, I tell people how to live a healthy lifestyle and guess what. They don’t follow my advise!! Dean Ornish has helped my cousin tremendously, but it takes commitment by the person to do the Ornish system. People are the problem. They will not do what it takes. They are pigs at the trough. Your rant doesn’t help people find their way. I wish there was an answer and I keep looking, but I don’t expect to find one.
Mike Kinnaird — April 26, 2007
Hi Dr J,
I’m confused… you say I’m incorrect but go on to say that not only do you tell your patients to live a healthy lifestyle, but that your own cousin has been helped “tremendously” by Dr Ornish’s program.
Seems we actually agree but that you think folks wont do it.
First I have to say I’m really pleased that you’re telling your patients the right thing. Many doctors not only don’t tell them the right thing but tell them “diet has nothing to do with it” and generally obstruct genuine folks looking for a natural method!
You’re a rare breed in my experience.
There was a doc on TV here a while back who was discussing this very issue of patient compliance with health advice. He said “If you throw enough mud at the wall, some of it will stick.”
You might think my site is pointless but I think it’s just more mud being thrown at the wall. You’re throwing plenty yourself. I hope you don’t get frustrated and decide to stop throwing.
People not only need telling they need convincing. That’s an important difference. And even then that’s only a start. They then have to undo a lifetime of habits which takes work.
Would you rather your cousin had no choice other than surgery? Would you rather Ornish’s system didn’t exist?
People need the truth. You can present them with the options in no uncertain terms and the choice is then theirs. Believe me, not all folks are unwilling to make changes–many are crying out for solutions which modern medicine has little or no answer.
It’s going to take more than my rant or your office to change the world! But the more mud on the wall, the better. I hope you don’t get too frustrated and continue to uphold the oath.
Cheers
~ Mike
Nutrition vs Medicine — May 12, 2007
More and more media is talking about the innefficiency of medicine and its neglect of prevention and nutrition. About the differences between the medical and nutritional aproach. Why are these different in so many cases? I found a nice post about it. Check it out here… All I can say is that I agree fully. They explain it clearly…
Gina Fitzpatrick — September 12, 2007
Right on! Although I’d choose more politically correct words. I agree, traditional Doctors do have their place in diagnosing and trauma situations, but it is the patient’s responsibility to gather correct information to take charge of their own health.
In 2003 I was 34 and had my first bone scan. My doctor and were alarmed at the rapid bone loss I was experiencing at such a young age. I was advised to take calcium. In 2004 I had my second bone scan and it showed a 10-11% loss from the prior year. My Doctor prescribed an anti-osteoporosis drug and really upped my calcium. I asked myself, when the hell did I hit 65 years old? After reading the outlandish side affects this drug caused and it advising me that I had to stay upright for 3 hours after taking the pill or suffer a burned esophagus, I decided to see a biochemist(nutritionists are trained in the nutrition food has while a biochemist can tell you the reaction it has within your body). I went to the Hippocrates Health Institute in West Palm Beach as I knew they had incredible self healing process in place.
In a nut shell I was advised that my prescribed meds may help the osteoporosis but beware of the liver cancer within 5 years. I was also told to help my bones I had to take silica and do exercise. I valued my health so made a point of getting to the gym once a week for gentle weight lifting. I was also informed that I had an acidic body that was leaching the calcium from my bones so I was told to lay off the sweets, caffeine and carbonated beverages. I didn’t want to be a hunched over, shrinking woman in my 40s, so I “limited” my intake as I believe you gotta live a little.
I had my 3rd bone scan yesterday. My Dr asked if I had been taking my medication and calcium. I said NOPE! She called me naughty so I told her what I was doing instead. As I walked out of the scanner room she went to collect the results. She hurriedly called me back to share her urgent findings. I was no longer losing bone mass at such a rapid rate. Rather, over the past 2 years I had INCREASED 5.4% in my spine and 17.9% in my hips. She said she didn’t know what I was doing but keep doing it! I told her what I was doing regarding my live food and gentle exercise, yet it seemed almost unbelievable to her.
The truth doesn’t require anyone’s belief to exist!
Sorry buddy, but your opinions are incorrect! I’m a doctor and stress prevention! Maybe I took the oath more seriously than most, but the reality is, I tell people how to live a healthy lifestyle and guess what. They don’t follow my advise!! Dean Ornish has helped my cousin tremendously, but it takes commitment by the person to do the Ornish system. People are the problem. They will not do what it takes. They are pigs at the trough. Your rant doesn’t help people find their way. I wish there was an answer and I keep looking, but I don’t expect to find one.
Hi Dr J,
I’m confused… you say I’m incorrect but go on to say that not only do you tell your patients to live a healthy lifestyle, but that your own cousin has been helped “tremendously” by Dr Ornish’s program.
Seems we actually agree but that you think folks wont do it.
First I have to say I’m really pleased that you’re telling your patients the right thing. Many doctors not only don’t tell them the right thing but tell them “diet has nothing to do with it” and generally obstruct genuine folks looking for a natural method!
You’re a rare breed in my experience.
There was a doc on TV here a while back who was discussing this very issue of patient compliance with health advice. He said “If you throw enough mud at the wall, some of it will stick.”
You might think my site is pointless but I think it’s just more mud being thrown at the wall. You’re throwing plenty yourself. I hope you don’t get frustrated and decide to stop throwing.
People not only need telling they need convincing. That’s an important difference. And even then that’s only a start. They then have to undo a lifetime of habits which takes work.
Would you rather your cousin had no choice other than surgery? Would you rather Ornish’s system didn’t exist?
People need the truth. You can present them with the options in no uncertain terms and the choice is then theirs. Believe me, not all folks are unwilling to make changes–many are crying out for solutions which modern medicine has little or no answer.
It’s going to take more than my rant or your office to change the world! But the more mud on the wall, the better. I hope you don’t get too frustrated and continue to uphold the oath.
Cheers
~ Mike
More and more media is talking about the innefficiency of medicine and its neglect of prevention and nutrition. About the differences between the medical and nutritional aproach. Why are these different in so many cases? I found a nice post about it. Check it out here… All I can say is that I agree fully. They explain it clearly…
Right on! Although I’d choose more politically correct words. I agree, traditional Doctors do have their place in diagnosing and trauma situations, but it is the patient’s responsibility to gather correct information to take charge of their own health.
In 2003 I was 34 and had my first bone scan. My doctor and were alarmed at the rapid bone loss I was experiencing at such a young age. I was advised to take calcium. In 2004 I had my second bone scan and it showed a 10-11% loss from the prior year. My Doctor prescribed an anti-osteoporosis drug and really upped my calcium. I asked myself, when the hell did I hit 65 years old? After reading the outlandish side affects this drug caused and it advising me that I had to stay upright for 3 hours after taking the pill or suffer a burned esophagus, I decided to see a biochemist(nutritionists are trained in the nutrition food has while a biochemist can tell you the reaction it has within your body). I went to the Hippocrates Health Institute in West Palm Beach as I knew they had incredible self healing process in place.
In a nut shell I was advised that my prescribed meds may help the osteoporosis but beware of the liver cancer within 5 years. I was also told to help my bones I had to take silica and do exercise. I valued my health so made a point of getting to the gym once a week for gentle weight lifting. I was also informed that I had an acidic body that was leaching the calcium from my bones so I was told to lay off the sweets, caffeine and carbonated beverages. I didn’t want to be a hunched over, shrinking woman in my 40s, so I “limited” my intake as I believe you gotta live a little.
I had my 3rd bone scan yesterday. My Dr asked if I had been taking my medication and calcium. I said NOPE! She called me naughty so I told her what I was doing instead. As I walked out of the scanner room she went to collect the results. She hurriedly called me back to share her urgent findings. I was no longer losing bone mass at such a rapid rate. Rather, over the past 2 years I had INCREASED 5.4% in my spine and 17.9% in my hips. She said she didn’t know what I was doing but keep doing it! I told her what I was doing regarding my live food and gentle exercise, yet it seemed almost unbelievable to her.
The truth doesn’t require anyone’s belief to exist!